Comments on: The sun will come out tomorrow http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:26:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Alum http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37203 Alum Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:40:18 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37203 A few thoughts, in no particular order: 1. The Nobel list on Wikipedia isn't official, so it's not fair to blame Columbia for some of the weaker claims it contains. Anyone can modify it. 2. A yearlong postdoc appointment (most are longer than a year) seems like a strong enough connection to support a legitimate claim. The person was part of the academic community full-time; so what if he or she didn't stay long? The list includes people who inly earned M.A. degrees, and that also usually takes only a year. 3. Gore taught at the J-School for one semester. Even then, he showed up only for a few hours per week to co-teach a non-credit course. He also had a role in a program at the School of Social Work, but it probably took up less of his time than his journalism gig. He showed up before class and left after; he probably didn't have an office. He was living in Tennessee at the time and stayed with his daughter in NYC one night per week after teaching his class. 4. Pamuk is in his third consecutive semester at CU and is presently co-teaching two (for-credit) seminars. He spent three years here full-time in the 1980's as a visiting scholar. He has an office on campus, and he actually uses it. He also just bought a place in the neighborhood (he had been living in a university apartment) and thus seems likely to continue teaching here. A few thoughts, in no particular order:

1. The Nobel list on Wikipedia isn’t official, so it’s not fair to blame Columbia for some of the weaker claims it contains. Anyone can modify it.

2. A yearlong postdoc appointment (most are longer than a year) seems like a strong enough connection to support a legitimate claim. The person was part of the academic community full-time; so what if he or she didn’t stay long? The list includes people who inly earned M.A. degrees, and that also usually takes only a year.

3. Gore taught at the J-School for one semester. Even then, he showed up only for a few hours per week to co-teach a non-credit course. He also had a role in a program at the School of Social Work, but it probably took up less of his time than his journalism gig. He showed up before class and left after; he probably didn’t have an office. He was living in Tennessee at the time and stayed with his daughter in NYC one night per week after teaching his class.

4. Pamuk is in his third consecutive semester at CU and is presently co-teaching two (for-credit) seminars. He spent three years here full-time in the 1980′s as a visiting scholar. He has an office on campus, and he actually uses it. He also just bought a place in the neighborhood (he had been living in a university apartment) and thus seems likely to continue teaching here.

]]> By: yup http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37202 yup Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:09:30 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37202 pamuk is in for the long haul now; he's co-teaching with huyssen and damrosch and has an office in schermerhorn (idea: bwogger stalker?) it also helped that he just happened to be on campus last year when he won. columbia has claimed even less affiliated people on its nobel list. just hop over to this wiki page and count the number of yearlong postdocs it includes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Columbia_University_people pamuk is in for the long haul now; he’s co-teaching with huyssen and damrosch and has an office in schermerhorn (idea: bwogger stalker?) it also helped that he just happened to be on campus last year when he won.

columbia has claimed even less affiliated people on its nobel list. just hop over to this wiki page and count the number of yearlong postdocs it includes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Columbia_University_people

]]> By: Also http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37182 Also Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:39:49 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37182 I'm all for Burmese monks, but not only were they too late for this year's prize, they already got a Nobel Peace Prize when Aung San Suu Kyi won it. It would be a bit odd if they collectively won another. Plus, Pamuk has been working regularly with Huyssen and others for years; he's actually teaching here right now.... And the Gore win was predictable for most of the past year. The only question is whether he announces his definitive intentions to run or to not run before or after his speech at the Nobel ceremony. I’m all for Burmese monks, but not only were they too late for this year’s prize, they already got a Nobel Peace Prize when Aung San Suu Kyi won it. It would be a bit odd if they collectively won another.

Plus, Pamuk has been working regularly with Huyssen and others for years; he’s actually teaching here right now….

And the Gore win was predictable for most of the past year. The only question is whether he announces his definitive intentions to run or to not run before or after his speech at the Nobel ceremony.

]]> By: Kara Walker http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37180 Kara Walker Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:30:48 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37180 Did anyone read her review in the NY Times? You have to love how they start it off talking about Teachers College as an example of race being a major issue in America but somehow manage to leave out the fact that Kara Walker is a g_ddamned Columbia School of Art professor. Did anyone read her review in the NY Times? You have to love how they start it off talking about Teachers College as an example of race being a major issue in America but somehow manage to leave out the fact that Kara Walker is a g_ddamned Columbia School of Art professor.

]]> By: Maybe http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37179 Maybe Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:22:08 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37179 because the Burmese monk thing just happened in the past few weeks. because the Burmese monk thing just happened in the past few weeks.

]]> By: where is http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37178 where is Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:20:36 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37178 the geometer? wouldn't he be pleased about how holes are in a shape? the geometer? wouldn’t he be pleased about how holes are in a shape?

]]> By: ARR http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37177 ARR Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:12:45 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37177 If it did, PrezBo would have emailed us already (well, maybe he will...it seems like Gore is at least as connected to this school as Orhan Pamuk) Speaking of which, does somebody want to justify giving the prize to Gore instead of the Burmese Buddhist monks? Like seriously...this has to be one of the worst decisions made by anybody. Ever. If it did, PrezBo would have emailed us already (well, maybe he will…it seems like Gore is at least as connected to this school as Orhan Pamuk)

Speaking of which, does somebody want to justify giving the prize to Gore instead of the Burmese Buddhist monks? Like seriously…this has to be one of the worst decisions made by anybody. Ever.

]]> By: Three! http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37175 Three! Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:09:47 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37175 Damn, #28 beat me to it Damn, #28 beat me to it

]]> By: well http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37174 well Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:08:45 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37174 ex-visiting j-school professor al gore just won...does that count? ex-visiting j-school professor al gore just won…does that count?

]]> By: haha http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37173 haha Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:04:28 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37173 hahaha no. dont you remember when those same boards (with the teeth) were all over butler scaffolding last year? hahaha no. dont you remember when those same boards (with the teeth) were all over butler scaffolding last year?

]]> By: Unrelated http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37172 Unrelated Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:01:55 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37172 What is going on with Nachos? There are black boards with... poetry? nailed to the box surrounding the restaurant. Is this all for the cashmere mafia filming?? What is going on with Nachos? There are black boards with… poetry? nailed to the box surrounding the restaurant. Is this all for the cashmere mafia filming??

]]> By: ARR http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37170 ARR Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:52:23 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37170 When all that weird shit was happening last year (i.e. Minuteman) Columbia quietly picked up 2 Nobel Prizes. After Ahmadinejad, bias incidents, roof collapses and the like, we should sweep those motherfuckers. When all that weird shit was happening last year (i.e. Minuteman) Columbia quietly picked up 2 Nobel Prizes. After Ahmadinejad, bias incidents, roof collapses and the like, we should sweep those motherfuckers.

]]> By: quiqui http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37168 quiqui Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:23:18 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37168 My bathroom ceiling fell in last year. My bathroom ceiling fell in last year.

]]> By: ZvS http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37164 ZvS Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:05:16 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37164 I was in that library yesterday. It looked like the sort of place where a ceiling would collapse, but maybe that's the shoddy Saran wrap over all the shelves. I was in that library yesterday. It looked like the sort of place where a ceiling would collapse, but maybe that’s the shoddy Saran wrap over all the shelves.

]]> By: safran http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow/#comment-37163 safran Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:42:04 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/10/11/the-sun-will-come-out-tomorrow#comment-37163 you seem to be confusing renting and owning, and then property rights and social imperative. good job you seem to be confusing renting and owning, and then property rights and social imperative. good job

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