Comments on: Teachers College Jewish Association hates haters and crimes of hate http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:56:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: *applause* http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39589 *applause* Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:43:30 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39589 Eloquently said. Those were my points, but you voiced them much better. TCJA should see the reality that anti-Semitism is not the ultimate problem here. The problem is racism against every imaginable minority. This is why I feel their demand to change Columbia's constitution as only pertaining to Jews out of step with what we should be doing as a whole. Eloquently said. Those were my points, but you voiced them much better.
TCJA should see the reality that anti-Semitism is not the ultimate problem here. The problem is racism against every imaginable minority. This is why I feel their demand to change Columbia’s constitution as only pertaining to Jews out of step with what we should be doing as a whole.

]]> By: no noose, good noose http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39588 no noose, good noose Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:11:19 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39588 Certainly every group targeted by an bias incident, hate crime, racist rabble should have the right to speak up on their own behalf without being criticized for being ethnocentric, but seeing as there has been a flurry of acts with diverse targets, I believe it is in the best interest of the particular community and the university at large to view every incident in the context of the others. I doubt the hangman has all that much in common with the bathroom stall blogger but the events are connected. Each act is encouraging an environment, for better or for worse, where people who sincerely believe these things feel more comfortable expressing them. If we are to address this problem we have to get it all out in the open and not interpret each act as an isolated incident against one particular group but as another revelation of an endemic problem. Certainly every group targeted by an bias incident, hate crime, racist rabble should have the right to speak up on their own behalf without being criticized for being ethnocentric, but seeing as there has been a flurry of acts with diverse targets, I believe it is in the best interest of the particular community and the university at large to view every incident in the context of the others. I doubt the hangman has all that much in common with the bathroom stall blogger but the events are connected. Each act is encouraging an environment, for better or for worse, where people who sincerely believe these things feel more comfortable expressing them. If we are to address this problem we have to get it all out in the open and not interpret each act as an isolated incident against one particular group but as another revelation of an endemic problem.

]]> By: Remember... http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39580 Remember... Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:08:13 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39580 You clearly didn't pay attention to the aftermath of the Ruggles hate crime a couple years ago (in which a dorm suite was covered with anti-Semitic and homophobic grafitti). I remember black student-activists being among the most vocal in stressing the need to re-evaluate the campus environment in the aftermath of that incident. You clearly didn’t pay attention to the aftermath of the Ruggles hate crime a couple years ago (in which a dorm suite was covered with anti-Semitic and homophobic grafitti). I remember black student-activists being among the most vocal in stressing the need to re-evaluate the campus environment in the aftermath of that incident.

]]> By: That's Because http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39576 That's Because Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:36:49 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39576 You didn't pay attention to the reactions to the noose incident. The town hall meetings, rallies, protests, Common Meals, etc immediately after the noose incident addressed racism not only specific to blacks, but to every minority on campus. In fact, noose protesters remarked about the diversity of those who attended such meetings, including those who weren't directly offended in the recent incidents, like students from the LGBT community. You can find these interviews on CUTV. Protest organizers after the noose incident had been very inclusive. The many "bills" of protest that have come out reflect precisely that. On the other hand, TCJA calls for a change in Columbia's constitution (no less!) that only relates to Jews and no one else. It is as if anti-Semitism deserves more consideration than racism directed towards other minority groups. That, my friend, I find disheartening. You didn’t pay attention to the reactions to the noose incident. The town hall meetings, rallies, protests, Common Meals, etc immediately after the noose incident addressed racism not only specific to blacks, but to every minority on campus. In fact, noose protesters remarked about the diversity of those who attended such meetings, including those who weren’t directly offended in the recent incidents, like students from the LGBT community. You can find these interviews on CUTV.

Protest organizers after the noose incident had been very inclusive. The many “bills” of protest that have come out reflect precisely that.
On the other hand, TCJA calls for a change in Columbia’s constitution (no less!) that only relates to Jews and no one else. It is as if anti-Semitism deserves more consideration than racism directed towards other minority groups. That, my friend, I find disheartening.

]]> By: you go TCJA http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39575 you go TCJA Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:24:56 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39575 its about time someone in the jewish community took an un apologetic stance on anti semitism. too many of the jewish establishment (*cough*hillel*) try to hide by insisting that these jewish issues are not uniquely jewish and that jews are just like everybody else in being victims to oppression. its about time someone in the jewish community took an un apologetic stance on anti semitism.

too many of the jewish establishment (*cough*hillel*) try to hide by insisting that these jewish issues are not uniquely jewish and that jews are just like everybody else in being victims to oppression.

]]> By: yes yes http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39574 yes yes Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:19:09 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39574 "The TC Jewish Association's response, if you read it from above, trivializes the noose and other graffiti incidents. The press conference makes it seem like anti-Semitism is the issue here, when in fact it is Racism against numerous minorities." TC JEWISH A - is highlighting the anti semitism here, as they should. they are the jewish assoiciation and they need to look out that these repeated and delibertae targeted anti semitic attacks are not swept under some vague umbrella of racism. (in fact if you look back at the past several years history at columbia, the vast majority of all hate crimes and acts of racism were incidents of anti semitism) also they very much achknowleged, and spoke out against and were sympathetic to all racism, if you read their statements. “The TC Jewish Association’s response, if you read it from above, trivializes the noose and other graffiti incidents. The press conference makes it seem like anti-Semitism is the issue here, when in fact it is Racism against numerous minorities.”

TC JEWISH A – is highlighting the anti semitism here, as they should. they are the jewish assoiciation and they need to look out that these repeated and delibertae targeted anti semitic attacks are not swept under some vague umbrella of racism. (in fact if you look back at the past several years history at columbia, the vast majority of all hate crimes and acts of racism were incidents of anti semitism)

also they very much achknowleged, and spoke out against and were sympathetic to all racism, if you read their statements.

]]> By: ARR http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39573 ARR Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:17:50 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39573 Yes, but groups seized on the bias incidents as an opportunity to pick on the Core, Bollinger, expansion and any number of other peripherally-related issues. Also, it's not all that unreasonable to think that Massad is an anti-Semite. Yes, but groups seized on the bias incidents as an opportunity to pick on the Core, Bollinger, expansion and any number of other peripherally-related issues. Also, it’s not all that unreasonable to think that Massad is an anti-Semite.

]]> By: hmmmmmmmm http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39572 hmmmmmmmm Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:10:15 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39572 I don't remember any black activists mentioning the swastikas, or El-Haj, or the homophobic crap from last year when they were out in full force yelling about the noose incident. How come those damned black people are so black-centric??? Fucking Idiot. I don’t remember any black activists mentioning the swastikas, or El-Haj, or the homophobic crap from last year when they were out in full force yelling about the noose incident. How come those damned black people are so black-centric???
Fucking Idiot.

]]> By: No, no http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39571 No, no Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:34:21 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39571 No, there is no problem with Jews countering anti-Semitism. I'm not criticizing calls for action against anti-Semitisim. However, the recent swastika incident at TC was not an isolated racist attack, but as one of many racist attacks on Columbia campus, along with other attacks against blacks, Arabs, and Muslims. The TC Jewish Association's response, if you read it from above, trivializes the noose and other graffiti incidents. The press conference makes it seem like anti-Semitism is the issue here, when in fact it is Racism against numerous minorities. Furthermore, TCJA takes this opportunity to pick on Nadia El-Haj, who herself is a victim of the recent racist incidents. The TCJA's lack of sympathy for other offended minority groups is disgusting. No, there is no problem with Jews countering anti-Semitism. I’m not criticizing calls for action against anti-Semitisim. However, the recent swastika incident at TC was not an isolated racist attack, but as one of many racist attacks on Columbia campus, along with other attacks against blacks, Arabs, and Muslims. The TC Jewish Association’s response, if you read it from above, trivializes the noose and other graffiti incidents. The press conference makes it seem like anti-Semitism is the issue here, when in fact it is Racism against numerous minorities.
Furthermore, TCJA takes this opportunity to pick on Nadia El-Haj, who herself is a victim of the recent racist incidents.

The TCJA’s lack of sympathy for other offended minority groups is disgusting.

]]> By: but of course http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39567 but of course Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:16:36 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39567 and 'minority groups' advocating 'cultural diversity' sorts of courses and 'people that aren't dead white men' in the core should really all just shut up and sit down - isn't it disgusting how they advocate for tolerance and expanding cultural bounderies and, worst, themselves? and ‘minority groups’ advocating ‘cultural diversity’ sorts of courses and ‘people that aren’t dead white men’ in the core should really all just shut up and sit down – isn’t it disgusting how they advocate for tolerance and expanding cultural bounderies and, worst, themselves?

]]> By: ARR http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39562 ARR Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:34:23 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39562 So Jews bringing attention to Jew-hatred is "semitocentric" (as if such a word even means anything)? Huh? So Jews bringing attention to Jew-hatred is “semitocentric” (as if such a word even means anything)? Huh?

]]> By: It's Getting Old http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39556 It's Getting Old Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:24:35 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39556 Did you even read the article? If "Columbia University will not accept anti-Jewish policies, curriculum, faculty, organizations and speakers on our campuses" is not semitocentric, I'll be damned. This press conference draws an unreasonable amount of attention to the swastika incident. It fails to adequately contextualize it in light of the other incidents that have been happening on campus. It is self-interested. Did you even read the article? If “Columbia University will not accept anti-Jewish policies, curriculum, faculty, organizations and speakers on our campuses” is not semitocentric, I’ll be damned. This press conference draws an unreasonable amount of attention to the swastika incident. It fails to adequately contextualize it in light of the other incidents that have been happening on campus. It is self-interested.

]]> By: clear http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39551 clear Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:36:18 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39551 "Semitocentric?" I think it is clear who the racist here really is. “Semitocentric?” I think it is clear who the racist here really is.

]]> By: Fudge http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39549 Fudge Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:03:05 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39549 It is a shame that one department/school at Columbia would use this incident as a weapon against another department/school at Columbia, and by that I mean TC and Barnard, respectively. What happened to the times when activists in America fought against all hate, not just the hate against one's specific community? What about the blacks and Muslims on campus, and the events that were so recently directed towards them? Is El-Haj not a victim herself of the recent racist acts? By being so "Semitocentric" and self-interested, these people only show that their message is tribalism wrapped in the rhetoric of righteousness. It is a shame that one department/school at Columbia would use this incident as a weapon against another department/school at Columbia, and by that I mean TC and Barnard, respectively.
What happened to the times when activists in America fought against all hate, not just the hate against one’s specific community? What about the blacks and Muslims on campus, and the events that were so recently directed towards them? Is El-Haj not a victim herself of the recent racist acts?

By being so “Semitocentric” and self-interested, these people only show that their message is tribalism wrapped in the rhetoric of righteousness.

]]> By: anonymous http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate/#comment-39542 anonymous Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:57:26 +0000 http://bwog.com/2007/11/05/teachers-college-jewish-association-hates-haters-and-crimes-of-hate#comment-39542 Wow. I thought it was a mocked-up cover until I read the caption. For posterity's sake: "Sniper suspect Mordechai Levy is escorted from apartment after allegedly firing shots from roof." "She called for Bollinger, Shapiro and Fuhrman (TC President) to put into their constitution that Columbia University will not accept anti-Jewish policies, curriculum, faculty, organizations and speakers on our campuses." Let's fight a war on war where we destroy the hate by every conceivable method known to the enemy. --'Truth' is linked in a circular relation with systems of power which produce and sustain it, and to effects of power which it induces and which extend it. A 'regime' of truth.-- Wow. I thought it was a mocked-up cover until I read the caption. For posterity’s sake: “Sniper suspect Mordechai Levy is escorted from apartment after allegedly firing shots from roof.”

“She called for Bollinger, Shapiro and Fuhrman (TC President) to put into their constitution that Columbia University will not accept anti-Jewish policies, curriculum, faculty, organizations and speakers on our campuses.”

Let’s fight a war on war where we destroy the hate by every conceivable method known to the enemy.

–’Truth’ is linked in a circular relation with systems of power which produce and sustain it, and to effects of power which it induces and which extend it. A ‘regime’ of truth.–

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