@Umm While a name like “Daquiris for Darfur” is obviously crass, it’s kind of ridiculous to suggest that party-driven fundraisers are either inappropriate or ill-conceived. Beneficiaries of charity probably don’t care whence the money came.
@i agree and marcellus tries to absolve herself with a critique on current political actvism and i’m surprised that her supporters overlook the fact that she does nothing for anyone but herself.
misguided as it is to advertise mixed drinks with a human rights disaster, all she accomplishes is a complacent criticism. at least they did something and at least the proceeds went towards orphans to a war-torn, impoverished country.
marcellus only reflects the columbia tradition of criticising those who have good intentions (and actions that follow), but don’t lift a finger. There is nothing novel about her article and it shows a complete absence of integrity with her lack of involvement.
@Laila “she does nothing for anyone but herself”
Do you know Jill Marcellus personally? Don’t be so quick to personally attack a writer merely because you disagree with what she has to say.
@in her words “I have a confession: I don’t have a cause. I read the news, and worry about the pain and devastating absurdity of the world, and then I generally watch a primetime medical drama. “But,” sputters the sensitive young college student, “what about Darfur? Didn’t you at least attend that protest?” Shocked by my negative reply, she undoubtedly gives me up as either frivolous or Republican, and the conversation perhaps progresses to the in-fighting of the Grey’s Anatomy cast.” – Jill Marcellus
@i agree, again facebook, I think you’re flat-chested.
The article was mean and judgemental. she criticises activist groups left and right, yet admits that she doesn’t take part in any humanitarian activism. she seems to imply that if there were a serious debate going on in campus, then she would be interested….but, the parties turn her off. that’s fair, THEN WHY NOT GET OFF YOUR JUDGEMENTAL ASS AND TRY TO MAKE A FORUM FOR SERIOUS DEBATE YOURSELF?
on the flip side, people like her is the reason why groups have to have an “awareness/party” concoctional disaster. IT’S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON’T GIVE A SHIT FOR 7 YEAR OLD’S WHO ARE KIDNAPPED AND GIVEN GUNS…and would rather get drunk in their insulated, indifferent, complacent, and privileged institution
@purplerain Sure, it’s all well and good if we donate money to a worthy cause, but is it so wrong for Marcellus to demand more from us as human beings? Is it so offensive that she expects us to actually care about what we’re donating to instead of using the massacre of hundreds of thousands of people as a means of validating our up-turned noses? Marcellus isn’t complacently criticizing. She simply asks for more. She’s fighting the greatest cause of all: breaking through the bullshit.
@again “wouldn’t you call the response to this article alone a ‘forum for serious debate’?”
No, absolutely not. I am using her words and in the context of the article, “serious debate” is used as a vehicle in which to raise awareness of human rights violations. this article doesn’t raise awareness, but merely attacks the methods of the well-intentioned.
“Sure, it’s all well and good if we donate money to a worthy cause, but is it so wrong for Marcellus to demand more from us as human beings? Is it so offensive that she expects us to actually care about what we’re donating to instead of using the massacre of hundreds of thousands of people as a means of validating our up-turned noses?”
I agree with you completely, but she has no basis or legitimacy for this. There is a world of difference between reforming a movement and bitching from the outside because there is no personal investment/involvement.
“Marcellus isn’t complacently criticizing. She simply asks for more. She’s fighting the greatest cause of all: breaking through the bullshit.”
Criticizing the methods of misguided activists? Okay that’s fine. But as for complacency and “fighting fo the greatest cause of all”? I have half the mind of sending both you and her to the Chad-border as eight-year old Sudanese children. You tell me after a couple days there what the “greatest cause of all” is.
@DHI Look, there’s a factor external to the money being donated, and that’s whether people treat these problems as something nice they can solve by donation at a party, or a pressing issue that needs to be dealt with right away.
@finally an eloquent way to describe how a lot of people feel towards pseudo liberals. our school is filled with too many of them, bs-ing their way through life, thinking that they are making a difference in global problems when theyre really not.
@very very true that critique on daquiris for darfur was long overdue. i am so embarrassed for all the people who had anything to do with that event… throwing money at people is not going to solve their problems, especially when their problems are caused by our gluttony and stupidity, and our inability to understand the issue. and when Bill Frist sends out an email asking people to call the white house on behalf of savedarfur.org, you know there is something extremely wrong. that said, there are some activist groups on campus trying to do real stuff… its just hard to find them. and yeah barnard! you have something to contribute! this is good! keep it up!
@Jill's article should have consulted student activist groups that are genuinely concerned about Darfur and are trying to make a difference without booze.
@quiqui Jill Marcellus’ article was excellent! Witty, sensitive, and very smart and uncompromising. I hope to read more of her. I agree with Sprinkles that a lot of students DO agree with her, are totally turned off by the self-serving, self-righteous and utterly ineffectual brand of “awareness raising” subsidized by MTV and Angelina Jolie, which ultimately only helps keep fake student “liberals” under the heels of the conservative forces because rather than actually doing anything worthwhile against the establishment, they’re out making pretend protests and wearing silly t-shirts. Maybe next Jill Marcellus could take a look into the Jeffrey Sachs’ sycophants?
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@purplerain “I have half the mind of sending both you and her to the Chad-border as eight-year old Sudanese children.”
WOW.
Well okay, if you insist… but you’re paying for the plastic surgery : )
@Umm While a name like “Daquiris for Darfur” is obviously crass, it’s kind of ridiculous to suggest that party-driven fundraisers are either inappropriate or ill-conceived. Beneficiaries of charity probably don’t care whence the money came.
@i agree and marcellus tries to absolve herself with a critique on current political actvism and i’m surprised that her supporters overlook the fact that she does nothing for anyone but herself.
misguided as it is to advertise mixed drinks with a human rights disaster, all she accomplishes is a complacent criticism. at least they did something and at least the proceeds went towards orphans to a war-torn, impoverished country.
marcellus only reflects the columbia tradition of criticising those who have good intentions (and actions that follow), but don’t lift a finger. There is nothing novel about her article and it shows a complete absence of integrity with her lack of involvement.
@Laila “she does nothing for anyone but herself”
Do you know Jill Marcellus personally? Don’t be so quick to personally attack a writer merely because you disagree with what she has to say.
@in her words “I have a confession: I don’t have a cause. I read the news, and worry about the pain and devastating absurdity of the world, and then I generally watch a primetime medical drama. “But,” sputters the sensitive young college student, “what about Darfur? Didn’t you at least attend that protest?” Shocked by my negative reply, she undoubtedly gives me up as either frivolous or Republican, and the conversation perhaps progresses to the in-fighting of the Grey’s Anatomy cast.” – Jill Marcellus
@i agree, again facebook, I think you’re flat-chested.
The article was mean and judgemental. she criticises activist groups left and right, yet admits that she doesn’t take part in any humanitarian activism. she seems to imply that if there were a serious debate going on in campus, then she would be interested….but, the parties turn her off. that’s fair, THEN WHY NOT GET OFF YOUR JUDGEMENTAL ASS AND TRY TO MAKE A FORUM FOR SERIOUS DEBATE YOURSELF?
on the flip side, people like her is the reason why groups have to have an “awareness/party” concoctional disaster. IT’S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON’T GIVE A SHIT FOR 7 YEAR OLD’S WHO ARE KIDNAPPED AND GIVEN GUNS…and would rather get drunk in their insulated, indifferent, complacent, and privileged institution
@KatieH wouldn’t you call the response to this article alone a “forum for serious debate”?
P.S. No one likes a potty mouth.
@purplerain Sure, it’s all well and good if we donate money to a worthy cause, but is it so wrong for Marcellus to demand more from us as human beings? Is it so offensive that she expects us to actually care about what we’re donating to instead of using the massacre of hundreds of thousands of people as a means of validating our up-turned noses? Marcellus isn’t complacently criticizing. She simply asks for more. She’s fighting the greatest cause of all: breaking through the bullshit.
@again “wouldn’t you call the response to this article alone a ‘forum for serious debate’?”
No, absolutely not. I am using her words and in the context of the article, “serious debate” is used as a vehicle in which to raise awareness of human rights violations. this article doesn’t raise awareness, but merely attacks the methods of the well-intentioned.
“Sure, it’s all well and good if we donate money to a worthy cause, but is it so wrong for Marcellus to demand more from us as human beings? Is it so offensive that she expects us to actually care about what we’re donating to instead of using the massacre of hundreds of thousands of people as a means of validating our up-turned noses?”
I agree with you completely, but she has no basis or legitimacy for this. There is a world of difference between reforming a movement and bitching from the outside because there is no personal investment/involvement.
“Marcellus isn’t complacently criticizing. She simply asks for more. She’s fighting the greatest cause of all: breaking through the bullshit.”
Criticizing the methods of misguided activists? Okay that’s fine. But as for complacency and “fighting fo the greatest cause of all”? I have half the mind of sending both you and her to the Chad-border as eight-year old Sudanese children. You tell me after a couple days there what the “greatest cause of all” is.
@DHI Look, there’s a factor external to the money being donated, and that’s whether people treat these problems as something nice they can solve by donation at a party, or a pressing issue that needs to be dealt with right away.
@DHI I mean to say good article
@finally an eloquent way to describe how a lot of people feel towards pseudo liberals. our school is filled with too many of them, bs-ing their way through life, thinking that they are making a difference in global problems when theyre really not.
@very very true that critique on daquiris for darfur was long overdue. i am so embarrassed for all the people who had anything to do with that event… throwing money at people is not going to solve their problems, especially when their problems are caused by our gluttony and stupidity, and our inability to understand the issue. and when Bill Frist sends out an email asking people to call the white house on behalf of savedarfur.org, you know there is something extremely wrong. that said, there are some activist groups on campus trying to do real stuff… its just hard to find them. and yeah barnard! you have something to contribute! this is good! keep it up!
@wow A first year and a Barnard student. and she’s articulate?!? I’ll waive my typical embargo on allowing frosh to speak/have columns for her.
@wait, is new york (of vh1 reality series fame) really coming to speak?
@Good Job... Jill Marcellus
@Jill's article should have consulted student activist groups that are genuinely concerned about Darfur and are trying to make a difference without booze.
@hmm I’m impressed that the Spec managed to get a photo of that party that didn’t involve too much alcohol or self-importance.
@ARR Believe me, I have no idea how they did it. It was probably hard work.
@photog spec photo, very good job. really, great shot.
@Jill Marcellus should keep it up.
@Stephen Cox does not have an accurate grasp of the situation. Good rant, though.
@re: ollie's “her job was made even harder by the low tips left by Columbia students”
gee, i wonder why? oh yeah, because the service is SHIT
@quiqui Jill Marcellus’ article was excellent! Witty, sensitive, and very smart and uncompromising. I hope to read more of her. I agree with Sprinkles that a lot of students DO agree with her, are totally turned off by the self-serving, self-righteous and utterly ineffectual brand of “awareness raising” subsidized by MTV and Angelina Jolie, which ultimately only helps keep fake student “liberals” under the heels of the conservative forces because rather than actually doing anything worthwhile against the establishment, they’re out making pretend protests and wearing silly t-shirts. Maybe next Jill Marcellus could take a look into the Jeffrey Sachs’ sycophants?
@tmw this is a fantastic picture.
@Sprinkles More Jill Marcellus, please! I think a lot of people agree with her but don’t have to balls to call people out on it.
@shira stephen cox is a rock star. great column.
@jill marcellus well-done piece.