53 CommentsHouse of Lies premiered last Sunday night, and nestled in between raunchy lesbian bathroom sex and unbridled elitism was this little gem of an exchange. You might think it sounds familiar, and you’d be right—the ‘ole “is Barnard part of Columbia?” debate has found its way onto a national stage.
Skip ahead to 24:00.
Bwog is confused. Is Jeannie a Barnard Alum diligently reinforcing the position that Barnard is rightfully included under the Columbia umbrella, or is she a College (Business Psych major, so not SEAS) alum offended by the association? Perhaps more importantly, how does she feel not being able to use Flex/Dining Dollars anymore…?
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@Anonymous I really hope that I can register for GIVING A FUCK this semester, but it appears that all sections are full. GODDAMNIT.
@Bronard what would happen if Barnard was an all-boys school and Columbia was formerly an All-Girls school that eventually went Coed? Would I feel ashamed of going to “Bronard”? Would Columbia girls look down at me ’cause I’m not Ivy, and would the guys give me bad looks if I were hitting on a Columbia girl in a 2:1 guy to girl world?
@probably yes too all.. people are mean and take a perverse enjoyment of the vulnerabilities/ insecurities of others
@Barnard '14 HA, whatever TV. Your Columbia v. Barnard blitzing attempt is like a ginger toddler compared to the full-grown awesomeness of LIFE (also, the internetz – thank you, Barnard-bashing anonymous posters.)
** Note: The jokes we Barnard students make about ourselves in the corner of our 60s-era cafeteria are awesome. Just saying. The chips on our shoulders are more hilarious than yours.
@Please learn how to write.
@Anonymous Not even gonna try to argue this one. It really is, but those who came in just because it was CU transfer out pretty quickly. Then again, 3 transferred into CC last year, so is it really that much of a back door?
@Who cares? We’re all unemployed anyway!
@'11 word.
@Anonymous I was promised raunchy lesbian sex… Disappointed.
@timewarner Showtime is not basic cable. It’s a premium channel.
@Twitch If a woman mentioned they went to Columbia, and an arrogant asshole wanted to put her down by assuming it was Barnard.
Also, bashing Barnard isn’t sexist. The reason we can bash Barnard is that women can go to Columbia. The ones who can’t get in (“OMG I know a girl in my class that got into Columbia and CHOSE to go to Barnard, waaaaaa”) but pretend like they did deserve to be ripped on.
See further: List College, JTS.
@JTS is the true back door to Columbia.
@Anonymous Culture industrial is shit
@i think it's obvious? She has to be from Barnard. Why would someone randomly suggest she was from Barnard if he/she hadn’t read it somewhere, say a resume? No offense to Barnard, but when I make wild speculations about where someone went to school, I wouldn’t pick Barnard.
Pick a women’s college. I don’t think Barnard is the first to come to mind.
Name a NYC college. Again, I don’t think Barnard is the first hit.
@I disagree.... It makes total sense that he would assume Barnard. A huge percentage of the people who go into finance are from Ivies. If he knew she was from NYC, or went to school in NYC, then odds are he’d focus on Morningside Heights.
I read it as a little prod from him. He’s assuming that, because she’s a woman who went to a NYC Ivy, she went to Barnard. Or he wants to make her think that’s what he’s assuming to get a rise out of her, which he seemed prone to doing. And it worked–she got defensive and shot back “Columbia!”
@Anonymous @I think it’s obvious–
On the one hand, I don’t want to sink to your Columbian level of appraising a college’s value (i.e., the attribute that would make it “come to your mind) in its selectivity/competitiveness.
On the other hand, as a student who is similarly committed as any “truer” Columbia student to being informed, I’d like to inform you that Barnard is statistically the most selective women’s college in the world, so if it doesn’t come to your mind first, that’s your problem, not Barnard’s.
@Anonymous A lot of people haven’t heard of Barnard. Many people in my wealthy Jewish Northeast suburb haven’t even heard of it. And could you possibly be more unnecessarily defensive?! The post you’re responding to makes no mention of selectivity. Calm down!
-BC ’13
@my wealthy Jewish Northeast suburb I really hope this comment is a joke…
@Anonymous *sorry, in the nation. (not sure how schools like Girton at Cambridge measure up)
@WHY ARENT WE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT.. …30 ROCK IS BAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKKK
o happy day!
@Anonymous the new episode felt weird =(
@everyone needs to calm the fuck down. Bwog isn’t seriously doing Barnard “vs.” Columbia.
@Anonymous Bwog, please stop this Barnard vs Columbia stuff!
@Anonymous Bwog, please never stop the Barnard vs. Columbia stuff. The immense amount of butthurt never gets old.
@Anonymous Yep, witnessing Columbia butthurt never gets old. And just wait til we bring up NYU!
@I definitely Heard it as her saying she went to Columbia. Unless one of the writers is a Barnard grad w a chip on their shoulder the other way seems a little ridiculous.
@WHY? Forget the Barnard/Columbia argument…why the fuck is anyone making a show about MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS? And who chose to air this garbage? This is the dregs of television, and yes, that includes the Desperate Housewives of Whatever.
@... oh i dunno… perhaps the fact that some of america’s most trusted names in big business made a little boo-boo and now the public imagination has been captured by this idea of a ruthless business elite? i’m not terribly impressed with the writing, but the concept is great … never before has the world of wall street and the consultants that feed off it captured so much attention. most people have no idea how that world works, and these producers stepped right in with a drama to try and fill that void. i think it’s a great concept.
the execution, on the other hand, is a bit cheesy.
@Anonymous Made a little boo-boo?! You are referring to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression a ‘little boo-boo’?? Ok so you know nothing about economics AND good television.
@ugh bwog did we really have to start the semester with this tired and useless argument? c’mon bwog, enough.
@Anonymous uhhh.. blame Showtime.
@uhhh no, blame bwog for posting this lame clip.
@also... obligatory HOMELAND IS FUCKING AWESOME!!! watch that instead of this garbage. claire danes is hot too! shotime! etc. etc.
@Anonymous TOTALLY AGREE!!! I’m rooting for her to take home the Golden Globe for best actress this coming Sunday night!
@holy shit. unbridled elitism is right. unbridled sexism, too. unsure if it’s purposeful caricature for the sake of satire, or if they’re actually just pompous dicks.
eh. always fun to watch pompous dicks fuck up, I guess.
@holy shit again. also the columbia vs. barnard debate is dumb and frankly pointless. keep calm and carry the fuck on already. yeesh.
@i smell someone who’s from barnard
@holy shit again again. close! but my penis and male secondary sexual characteristic argue other.
@Twitch She could be Columbia (CC/SEAS…or that other school for the old folk and jts) and offended at the suggestion that she’s Barnard.
Frankly, that seems to me what’s going on. She doesn’t say Barnard’s Columbia.
@Jean-Ralphio cuz I am FLUUUUUUUUSHED with caaaaash
@Anonymous chickie chickie parm parm
@thank you I made my money the old fashioned way….
I GOT RUN OVER BY A LEXUS.
@Anonymous so this thread is awesome. here’s some more awesome.
http://youtu.be/VlrcAfheHqo
@Anonymous kristen bell is hot.
too bad this show is complete and utter garbage.
also, shotime is not on basic cable. :'(
@Anonymous ugh give this argument a rest. The only people who care are the ones who haven’t done anything useful since they got into college and people who haven’t bothered making friends in different schools.
@Anonymous she clearly went to barnard. just because she has sweatpants that say columbia down the side doesn’t mean she’s got the CU tag.
@Anonymous nah bwog. she is clearly saying that barnard IS columbia.
@probably right since the show is called house of lies
@thankfully no one is gonna watch this bullshit show
@I love this
@What the heck? How the hell did LionShare get onto the tags?
@oh wait NVM
@Anonymous House of Tag$