1. moph  

    okay, it's the height of irony for me to post this, as someone who spent 2-and-a-half years doing various student government things, but i was really amused by the gs shadow student council article.

    i just didn't realize that the stakes were that high for some people.

    maybe the article just made it seem more serious than it was?

    any nsac members reading this?


  2. well...  

    As someone who comes back after graduation to take part in certain student-organized meetings, actually, I would think that you would understand. I won't be any more specific than that, but you know perfectly well what I'm talking about, Matthew.

  3. bubble  

    Could Megan Greenwall's Senior Column be any more Spec-clubby? I mean jesus. She makes journalism out to be some gang or something, as if the highest value her readers could desire is that they know her colleagues have got her back. It just shows what a bubble diehard Spec people live inside.

    Plus it's sort of a douchebag move to use your column to announce your post-graduation job opportunity and namedrop New York Times editors.

    The article:

    • speccie  

      i'm also pretty sure megan's story about prezbo has been written at least 3 or 4 times already. and a senior column about how spec people always "go to bat" for each other demonstrates an absurd level of self-delusion.

  4. re: well [moph]  

    That's exactly why I'm curious, Well.

    For nearly everyone here, certain things matter immensely.

    Hence my question--I hadn't realized that there was such a substantial percentage of GS that felt unrepresented by GSSC and ignored by the administration.

    For CC, it seems that most student advocacy is issues-based (SHOCC/FAIR/the sweatshop stuff/recycled paper/GEO/FlashAccess/etc...)I couldn't imagine a group of people forming a shadow CCSC, designed to push the real CCSC towards more daring and meaningful positions.

    Maybe that speaks to the irrelevance of CCSC? Maybe CC students feel like they have more access to administrators and so can do single-issue campaigns? Maybe it's just an curiousity (curiosity?) of how various students choose to organize?

    I don't know. Any thoughts?

    • IMD  

      What confuses me about the whole NSAC-GSSC split is that NSAC is headed by Niko Cunningham who ran with Susannah Karlsson on the New GS Order ticket. So unless there was some ideological fallout that I am not aware of, the new GS eboard (Susannah and Chad Miller were elected as President and VP Student Life, resepctively) should be in line with NSAC's agenda?

      I think the real issue here is that GS has no formal representation on FAiR (the coalition has GS members but it decided to keep GS and CC/SEAS issues separate for the time being) and so NSAC is functioning more like FAiR's GS equivalent, as well as a meta-activist organization for GS-specific issues. That makes a lot more sense to me since it's always healthy to have student governments and activist coalitions playing off of each other.

      But this is all speculation. I have no idea what NSAC actually does.

  5. GH  

    Hey, how better to demonstrate my four years of English classes than to prove that I can use a thesaurus?

  6. senior columns  

    are the biggest waste of the ad:content ratio ever. i'm disgruntled.

  7. M.R.  

    "NSAC members said they feel that they have been misled into believing Columbia’s sales pitch that the administration provides proper personal attention and accessibility."

    Wow, they must be pretty slow if they just figured this out.

  8. Adolph Lewisohn

    Niko Cunningham is pissed because he wants to believe he put his heart and soul into the election, lost, and needs something to put on his resume other than Columbia University School of General Studies.

    Watch Niko dodge every single issue in the book:

    (click on the comments link -- and you'll quickly learn that Niko hasn't the slightest clue)


      what a sorry site. compare it to the websites from the ccsc election...

    • niko  

      Niko Cunningham here. As most GS students approaching thirty, resume building in student politics is not a primary concern.

      Susannah, Chad and Gabrielle's initiatives for next year will be extremely exciting, and they know they have my full support.

      The question to ask ourselves is not do we need a splinter council, because this is not what NSAC represents; the question to ask of ourselvesis how does GS become an even more phenomenal school for future students ten, fifteen, and twenty years in the future.

      If you'd like to know more of what NSC stands for, please visit the forums on I'm sure you'll be surprised.



  9. haha  

    "NSAC members said they feel that they have been misled into believing Columbia’s sales pitch that the administration provides proper personal attention and accessibility."

    I guess they didn't read the 23,000 comments about this university "not holding your hand"...I thought these GS kids were street-smart anyway?

    • to haha --

      I disagree (with the quote). If Columbia's good at anything, it's handholding. Less handholding (meaning, specifically, a more organized and less intrusive bureaucracy) would probably serve the university community a heck of a lot better.

  10. i don't understand...  

    anything about gs in general. it seems to be split between older students who could care less about what goes on, and younger students (read: matan) that want to make gssc the vehicle for becoming a "real" columbia undergrad.

    i just don't get gs at all.

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