Ok, so there wasn’t an actual fire in the fireplace, but there was a lot of great food and – much to Bwog’s delight – PrezBo arrived predictably late wearing desert boots! Since some of you have been to a fireside chat yourself, or have at least read our regular coverage on Bwog, we won’t rehash the mansion swag or the aura of his presence. But PrezBo did say a couple of important things last night:
One of your fellow students of course asked about ROTC. Although he summarized the history of the ROTC debate briefly and eloquently, PrezBo refused to give a personal opinion on the question. “I really don’t want to get too deep into the ROTC question because I want to see how it’s debated in the community,” he said when a second student asked about ROTC. He was so interested in hearing the opinions of the students present that he welcomed a few comments from students and then asked for a show of hands: with the understanding that no changes in curriculum would be made to accommodate ROTC, how many students would welcome ROTC back to campus? About 80% of the students raised their hands. Only a few were opposed, and an equal number declared themselves undecided. You can investigate the ROTC debate for yourself here. Read on for PrezBo on a hypothetical 5th year and Kaplan after the jump!
PrezBo was also eager to address accusations made by, among others, the makers of the documentary film Inside Job, which documents the fact that several Columbia professors, especially economists, have been paid big bucks to consult for companies that benefit from the free-market system and from de-regulation. The film argues, as PrezBo put it, “how can that not have an influence on their scholarly work?” PrezBo believes professors have a right to engage in activities outside of Columbia, as long as they disclose any activities that might bias their academic work. Whenever PrezBo writes on free speech, for example, he acknowledges openly, “I am a member of the board of the Washington Post Company.”
In fact, PrezBo’s position at the Washington Post Company recently prompted the College Democrats to publish a petition demanding that PrezBo resign or push reforms at Kaplan University, a for-profit educational institution owned by the Washington Post Company and accused of unethical recruitment policies by the federal Government Accountability Office. PrezBo said he believes that “the role of for-profit educational institutions in the world today is interesting and problematic–there’s a lot of potential good and a lot of real good that comes out of their existence, and I’m glad to be associated with [Kaplan] in all of those activities.” Many for-profit institutions like Kaplan are “trying to serve a population of people who would otherwise not be able to be educated in the other systems we have in this country,” said PrezBo, and therefore these institutions have “to some extent, a noble mission.”
Right before leaving, PrezBo dropped a bomb on the audience. In a hypothetical situation, he asked, “if you were offered a fifth year at Columbia, where you would travel to each of the university’s Global Centers we’re setting up around the world,” studying a single topic related to globalization, such as a specific global health issue, in any discipline you wanted, and producing a long research paper for publication at the end of the year, “how many of you would sign up?” Without skipping a beat, an excited voice from the back asks, “Who’s funding it?” Laughs, and PrezBo says that “for the purpose of this let’s just assume it’s paid for.” Every hand went up, and PrezBo seemed somewhat surprised but very pleased. “You’d give up a job opportunity for this? $100,000 a year? Because that’s the opportunity cost for you.” More laughs, but before anyone could ask a question, PrezBo was on his way out the door. So, PrezBo…where do we sign up again?
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22 Comments
@Anonymous came to this page expecting to see a pic of Prezbo in desert boots. I am leaving disappointed.
@Curious as to what the engineering based side of that extra year could look like.
@Anonymous what does that even mean? is 4 years of engineering not enough for you?
@hmm for profit education is basically a scam. frontline had a great special on it.
@Alum “In fact”, not “In face”.
@Liz Thanks! fixed
@Anonymous Wait, Prezbo’s saying that you can get a job with a $100,000 salary straight out of college? What’s he smoking?
@CC 11 Base salary for finance is 70k. Add in 10k signing bonus + end of year bonus and you’re making at least $100,000.
@Anonymous O why did I choose the liberal arts?
@Anonymous the ROTC is coming back to campus! (or at least be allowed to come back).. let’s hope the senate doesn’t allow a few loud voices to overcome the voice of the majority of students.
@Alum Let’s hope the Senate doesn’t allow a few loud voices to override its own stated policies.
@it's legal ROTC wouldn’t violate any university policies.
@... i mean. look, i get it. journalism is hurting. the internet has changed everything. but honestly, the washington post hitching it’s wagon to the whole pay-to-play educational “market” is both cynical and pathetic. as far as i’m concerned, there’s no difference between organizations like kaplan university and those dodgy check cashers you find in low income neighborhoods. it’s predatory. it’s sad. it’s a regressive tax on those who have the least to pay.
and it’s fucking pathetic that lee bollinger would defend it.
@Sign the petition Kaplan preys on the insecurities of financially insecure and emotionally vulnerable young adults, rushing them to take out massive loans that they will never be able to afford and enroll in a school that offers little success at an enormous cost.
Just 1 in 8 Kaplan students actually complete a degree program, yet over a quarter of them default on their loans within 3 years of leaving school.
Ask PrezBo to take a stand. Sign the petition.
http://www.change.org/petitions/columbia-university-president-lee-bollinger-reform-kaplan-or-quit-its-board
@... not impressed mr. bollinger. not impressed at all.
although as a gs “student”, i shouldn’t be the least bit surprised that you’d endorse the notion of for-profit education.
and uh, i’d really like to know what exactly kaplan university offers that isn’t on offer in most local community college systems at a fraction of the price… (ie: at a price that this so-called “underserved” population can actually afford without borrowing themselves into oblivion)
@Kaplan definitely works for some Kaplan worked out really good for my older brother. When he got out of the Army he moved to the Bahamas, used his Gi Bill to live an awesome lifestyle out there while going through Kaplan to get his degree. When he finished he moved back and landed a great job immediately paying 40$ an hour and is happier than he’s ever been. Your education is what you make of it, it’s not always about the name of the university on the degree.
@... if it’s true that “your education is what you make of it,” then couldn’t he have gotten the exact same thing from a junior college at a fraction of the cost to the taxpayers?
i do not want my tax dollars subsidizing the washington post, especially through their shady low rent check cashing operation…
there’s no point in signing the petition, if bollinger is willing to go on record endorsing this shit, then i can only imagine what he’s not proud of.
@um there IS a point in signing this petition. he won’t act unless the heat is on, which it will be once this gets big.
@... the only petition i’d be willing to sign would be a call for the man’s removal. he’s made it pretty clear where he stands on this issue, which makes it pretty clear to me what sort of a man he actually is.
@Anonymous because clearly the only rational thing to do is to call for someone’s removal as soon as there is a disagreement in policy?
@ungh Prezbo? Desert boots? HOTNESS
@don't forget to mention that... PrezBo said at each Global Center, students would be able to meet business leaders, ministers and other officials! :)