Students from Professor Rieder’s class recount the N-word being quoted from a rap lyric and the subsequent disagreement.
On Thursday, October 22, Professor Rieder recited a lyric that included the N-word in his “Culture In America” class while talking about Eminem and multiplicity of identity. He then continued with his lecture. After a minute, a student in the class unmuted and said that as a non-Black person, Rieder shouldn’t say the word. Rieder disagreed. He explained that though he had previously used the full slur, including the “hard r” ending, he’d stopped using the word with the “hard r” two years ago, following conversations with students.
After class, Rieder invited students to stay for a few minutes to have a “face-to-face” discussion, asking that anyone who wanted to contribute turn on their camera. Two students who talked to Bwog noted that when he said the word, and during this after-class discussion, he did not engage in any discussion about the historical context of the word, or even its use in rap music. Students brought up that given his whiteness, it is inappropriate for him to use the word. Following this, he said that there was an “interesting point about ingroup and outgroup,” and then used this as an excuse to say “bitch” and the homophobic f-slur. He also gave isolated examples from his life of Black people and people of other marginalized identities who had “given him permission” to use these words in an attempt to justify his actions.
Rieder also expressed his belief that liberal arts schools are too sensitive. He said that he uses these words to make students uncomfortable in order to make them grow, given that students exist within a “liberal bubble,” according to Bwog’s sources.
The sources noted that Rieder’s usage of the racial slur did not come as a surprise to them. They said that he had not previously used the word in class this semester; however, he frequently made uncomfortable generalizations about women and people of color. Furthermore, one of the students noted that they had been explicitly warned about Rieder, as it is well known that he has used the N-word multiple times while teaching. One of the students noted that in a conversation with Sociology Department Head Dr. Mignon Moore, Moore said she is aware of Rieder’s continued use of slurs while teaching, as multiple students have brought complaints against him over the years. The students noted that they were also aware of multiple complaints made against Rieder’s behavior in previous semesters.
The students believe that this semester he will be more careful, only as a result of not wanting to be reported, rather than due to any real change in his behavior. After class, he sent an email to his students where he said, “I regret any pain or offense caused by my quoting, whether one student or the whole class felt pain or offense.” The full text of the email is provided below.
Bwog’s sources said they felt that the email was more of a justification for his use of the word, with an apology for causing pain, rather than an apology for using the word itself, or an acknowledgement that he was wrong to do so. “He definitely still thinks he’s right,” one of the students said. Despite his repeated behavior, the students said that they believe he will face few repercussions, as he is a tenured professor, which makes it difficult to take action against him.
Repercussions for students are a different matter, though. Both students who talked to Bwog said that they felt the need to remain anonymous because they feared potential repercussions from Rieder. They also noted that in class, when the professor opened up discussion after the student unmuted to challenge his behavior, nobody else spoke up. The students said they think this is likely because many other students in the class feared repercussions from Rieder, as the power dynamic inherent in interactions between students and professors often intimidates students into staying silent, rather than speaking up against their professor.
Email from Professor Rieder sent to “Culture in America” students on October 29 at 2:17 pm:
Given the importance of the discussion of the “n word,” I thought I’d follow up on the excellent post-class conversation as well as reiterate my appreciation to (student name) for raising the issue. This was a model of how open conversation should unfold, no matter what the issue, how charged the issue, and no matter what points of view are being raised.
At this point I have only had feedback from a small number of students. I greatly appreciate feedback and always welcome all your thoughts and your responses to this or any of the larger issues I raised in class. I will always treat any replies as confidential communications and of course if there is a desire on the part of students, I’d be glad to schedule a voluntary class about the specific and broader issues raised here.
After class, one student asked the important question, did I need to say the word and highlighted a different approach from what Harvard Law School professor Randall Kennedy, author of a book on this topic and the usage of the word, describes as the totalist “eradicationist” position: maybe there are contexts in which the word can be said by a white person, for example, when probing the historical meaning of the word and the serious harm that it meant to convey and did convey, but not in other contexts.
As I was skimming through lines of lyrics leading up to the final Eight Mile battle scene, I quoted the usage of the word, given that it was not the hard “er” ending but the “a” ending, which I consider sociolinguistically to often function as a different word. In courses in the past, when I have quoted someone else using the hard version of the word, I always gave a warning in the beginning of the course that I did not use the euphemism the “n word” so students were prepared for my quoting the word itself.
Given that I have stopped quoting others’ use of the word, members of this class had no preparation for my quoting the word, or context for understanding my reasons for thinking it is important to be able to quote that word and others too. I regret that lapse and I apologize.
In retrospect, it’s fair to say that I didn’t need to quote the word. I regret any pain or offense caused by my quoting, whether one student or the whole class felt pain or offense. You should know that in the remaining weeks of the course, no material will call for saying the word.
I have discovered that students often hesitate to air their true opinions about controversial matters in classrooms and it is my hope, as it always has been, that students will continue to raise important issues, speak of their own experience and take on things, and continue to educate our community with honest conversation– in this class, in all higher education settings and beyond them. I applaud all those who are pursuing this approach, no matter what their viewpoints.
I look forward to hearing from you.
view of Barnard’s campus from Milbank via Bwog staffer’s phone
23 Comments
@Anonymous Does anyone feel personally victimized by this professor’s quote? Seems like he needs to start being more cautious with his wordage, however “racist” is not a word I’d use to describe this person.
@Anonymous “students often hesitate to air their true opinions about controversial matters in classrooms” – true, especially today. Critical thinking doesn’t matter. No discussion, please, we know the right answer. Turn brain off and be in line with what’s popular, including social justice agenda, is what matters.
@Anonymous prof needs to bring in the blacks that gave him the ok card to guest speak in class
@Anonymous It’s unfortunate that the comments to this piece do not show more empathy for what it is like to be a person of color at an Ivy League school and how alienating that experience can be. And that’s on top of all the regular pressure of being at Barnard. So to have the N-word used in what is likely a majority white class is wildly insensitive! But the open question is what now? It seems like the professor will be more mindful in the future and genuinely does want to make amends, though I can see why his response thus far feels unsatisfying. It seems like it might be helpful to take some time in class to confront what was said directly, to place it in personal and historical context, and, for all, including the professor, to try to learn from it. After all, the course is about Culture in America and racism plays a huge role in American culture (though it’s possible that kind of discussion might feel like it puts added pressure on any students of color). Ultimately, I would urge any students who were hurt to keep pushing for the resolution that feels right to them and remind them that they absolutely belong at Barnard.
@Anonymous Another mewling knish balloon! POCs are more than capable of hearing offensive language in historical context. Suggesting otherwise is offensive and denigrating.
I guess patronizing URMs is worth it, so you can tell your cat 5 people liked your poast.
@Anonymous You seem very agitated by the idea that someone thinks that the casual use of racist slurs is inappropriate in class. Perhaps that’s why you failed to see that Professor Rieder wrote that he “didn’t need to quote that word” and that a student said the Professor Rieder “did not engage in any discussion about the historical context of the word. ” In short, the article states that the word was not necessary and it was not placed in historical context. Moreover, it seems like the use of the word has been incredibly disruptive to the class.
Clearly, students can and do “handle” hearing offensive language in class, but when that language is unnecessary, when that language is not placed in context, when that language in fact distracts from learning, they really shouldn’t have to.
@Anonymous What a smarmy, passive aggressive comment!
>”I’M NOT AGITATED YOU ARE!!!!”
Only one seething here is you, my guy. Quit whining. No one respects you.
@Anonymous Using this word as a form of hate towards someone(s) is wildly different than quoting a film. Insensitive? Yes it seems, but racist – no. This person clearly meant no harm towards anyone.
@Anonymous This is not the first time! He has said it in previous years!
@Anonymous this man has had a history of saying the n word in class from previous years!
@Sticks and stones You can tell whoever wrote this is either (1) a dour, histrionic AWFL or (2) an effete, low T beta orbiter. Use of scare quotes, overly dramatic and effeminate diction, and emotionally-driven conclusions arising from a desire to be liked by the herd. People like this are bottom-of-the-barrel intellectually and contribute nothing to the world. No one will ever remember your names!
@Break your bones And what exactly, pray tell, is effeminate diction? Give me a fucking break.
@Anonymous >pray tell
No one will ever take you seriously. Another dysgenic face lost in the herd. Last man energy!
@Anonymous “low T beta orbiter”?? cringe.
@Anonymous Seethe.
@Anonymous Imagine going to an Ivy League and not understanding the difference between “use” and “mention”. No wonder the byline is unsigned. What a moron!
@Anonymous This was a Barnard professor.
@Anonymous I have a question or two for the students who felt traumatized by Prof. Rieder’s recent use of a variant of the N word during class. With respect, I ask if you can find it in your hearts and minds to at least try and take a more nuanced view of the situation. I can say from about 25 years of personal experience that Rieder is man of good will. Consider taking a slightly broader and deeper view of recent events in his class. For instance, consider taking a look at his book on MLK’s “Letter from Birmingham Jail.” I hope you’ll find some things in the book that might complicate what appears to be your current negative take on Rieder. (As a side benefit, you might find that studying the Letter will help to strengthen your rhetorical skills.) My second question is this: Can you make a distinction between, on the one hand, being hurt by and disagreeing with, Rieder’s use of the N word and, on the other hand, trying to “take action against him”?? Clearly, he’s eager to engage you in a respectful discussion. Ask yourselves, what exactly would you, and the Univesity, gain by punishing him? In challenging and engaging you, isn’t he doing just what a good prof shoud be doing?
If you can productively mull over some of these questions, then you will have a good shot at fulfilling some of the highest goals of your Barnard education. I wish you the best.
@Anonymous Sounds like the professor is open, accurate, and interested in educating his students.
@Jose Figueroa Borgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLOw_SzkRQ8
This is how the word should be properly used!
@Anonymous Sort of strange journalistic posture from Bwog—it seems implicitly that the author agrees with the two sources that quoting the word is a taboo worthy of some punishment. Maybe that is widely believed by students, but I wouldn’t have guessed so.
Very strange posture by the 2 sources—the professor seems to be going out of his way to say that he’s open to conversation and criticism about his use of the word, but the students claim that there’s still some hidden threat of repercussion—I don’t know how you can get an education in the liberal arts (or sociology of all subjects!) if you really do believe that every time you express disagreement with a professor in a discussion, that they’re secretly out to get you…
@editor emeritus Hey, Bwog, your journalism is better when you have multiple viewpoints in the newsroom since that results in fuller articles with more nuanced takes. Having 20 (leftist) girls sitting around a table writing every article isn’t going to make your content more engaging to anyone who doesn’t already agree with you.
@Anonymous Very few college students are boys and girls for very long — perhaps communicating as one adult to another would strengthen your argument.