@Finally the MTA starts to catch up with the world of metropolitan mass transit technology, at least a little bit.
The big advantage with this system is that you can chose on site which lines to take if you have the choice, it also allows not having to gamble on express stops.
@hm These things are cool… but basically pointless. I mean, once you have swiped into the subway, you have to wait the same amount of time for your train regardless of these signs. It would be a LOT more useful if they had these above ground.
@well My initial reaction is the same, but I’m in Paris at the moment and they have those here and I really like them. Are they useful if you are deciding to swipe in? Definitely not.
However, thanks to the posted times, you can tell if you should sit down or not, whether you can buy a magazine at the newsstand or whatever, if you have time to make a phone call, and if it’s late at night, esp when the trains are spaced later apart, exactly how long you’re going to be waiting for the train. I could also see it useful if you’re deciding to take the express somewhere or not (hello 96th, street!)
@... it starts with the signs. then realtime data ends up on a website. then people like google and hopstop integrate it into their services. then life is pretty good.
the signs are cheap and easy to put in. what their presence really means is that the mta finally has bits of a modern signaling/control system up and running. that is a big deal that will have benefits throughout the system. whether it’s cutting crew size down with automatic train control (single operator like BART in sf) or increased frequency because they can reduce the safety margins between trains, it’s nothing but good.
@Armin Rosen So the MTA has enough money for these totally unnecessary county things, but not enough to subsidize student fares or stave off a veritable doomsday of service cuts and fare hikes?
@Anonymous Because once you start using capital to pay for operating expenses, you can get into serious serious trouble. (See NYC, circa 1975).
And I bet all these unnecessary count-y things were put in motion when we were all flush in fake subprime cash. (Did you know that every time a piece of real estate gets sold, the MTA gets a cut?)
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@nice finally some technology!
those signs were awesome in paris and made me MUCH less anxious about constantly staring down the subway tunnel.
@Finally the MTA starts to catch up with the world of metropolitan mass transit technology, at least a little bit.
The big advantage with this system is that you can chose on site which lines to take if you have the choice, it also allows not having to gamble on express stops.
@hm These things are cool… but basically pointless. I mean, once you have swiped into the subway, you have to wait the same amount of time for your train regardless of these signs. It would be a LOT more useful if they had these above ground.
@well My initial reaction is the same, but I’m in Paris at the moment and they have those here and I really like them. Are they useful if you are deciding to swipe in? Definitely not.
However, thanks to the posted times, you can tell if you should sit down or not, whether you can buy a magazine at the newsstand or whatever, if you have time to make a phone call, and if it’s late at night, esp when the trains are spaced later apart, exactly how long you’re going to be waiting for the train. I could also see it useful if you’re deciding to take the express somewhere or not (hello 96th, street!)
@... it starts with the signs. then realtime data ends up on a website. then people like google and hopstop integrate it into their services. then life is pretty good.
the signs are cheap and easy to put in. what their presence really means is that the mta finally has bits of a modern signaling/control system up and running. that is a big deal that will have benefits throughout the system. whether it’s cutting crew size down with automatic train control (single operator like BART in sf) or increased frequency because they can reduce the safety margins between trains, it’s nothing but good.
@well woohoo! :) now, about that 2nd ave line…
@Anonymous i’m gonna second that motion that rachel reichblum is hot
@Yay! It’s about time the MTA at least attempted to modernize a bit. NY is way behind the rest of the world, and even north america.
@Armin Rosen So the MTA has enough money for these totally unnecessary county things, but not enough to subsidize student fares or stave off a veritable doomsday of service cuts and fare hikes?
@Anonymous Because once you start using capital to pay for operating expenses, you can get into serious serious trouble. (See NYC, circa 1975).
And I bet all these unnecessary count-y things were put in motion when we were all flush in fake subprime cash. (Did you know that every time a piece of real estate gets sold, the MTA gets a cut?)
@Anonymous Rachel Reichblum is hot
@A.K. jordy, you’re weird