1. Anonymous  

    CUE honestly changed my life, and was one of the most educational parts of my Columbia experience. I say this straight from the heart. It is a damn shame to see these changes made without regard to the value this program has for incoming first years.

  2. Khan

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

    • no

      This worked for years no problem. Scott Wright is a lazy asshole. CUE students moved on their own into the rooms that housing told them they could move into (and occasionally changed rooms midweek) no problem. There was no additional prep needed to turnover the rooms at all, and you can't make decisions without consulting the chief stakeholder.

    • Alumn

      This sounds good on paper, but since when are any of us allowed to move-in early without a series of beuracratic documents and hundreds of dollars (unless of course we are athletes)? I guess this can be possibly beneficial if any McBain resident can just show up two weeks early and move their stuff in no questions asked, but who are we kidding.

  3. lord

    As a former CUE member, I remember what a TERRIBLE ordeal it was to have to move my stuff across the street from McBain to Carman. Thanks Scott Wright for being so thoughtful and really giving students a say in the matter as always.

  4. What?

    Is Kyoko's assumption anywhere close to correct? The idea that pre-orientation programs are only for wilting wallflowers who aren't ready for a fast life is the big city is totally ridiculous. I signed up for my program because it just seemed like a hell of a lot of fun, and I know many others did the same. CUE and COOP aren't about social remediation or life skill-building. What is this girl talking about? Does she know her program participants at all?

    • Misinterpreted  

      I honestly think her quote was probably just taken out of context. Plenty, if not most, people who do pre-orientation programs (myself included) were not doing it because we were uncomfortable with school or socially inept, but because it was a good way to ease into the insanity of orientation and freshman year while meeting people in a smaller group setting (and not only that, but especially for CUE and COOP, meeting like-minded people and doing something you really enjoy doing). I think what she meant to say is that pre-orientation and orientation is a very difficult transition for anyone, not just wilting wallflowers, and no matter what you'll be vulnerable going into it. What the administration is doing is unnecessary and taking away elements of community building for no real reason.

  5. CUE 08

    Best program. It started my college experience on such a positive note. Thank you Sarah B. and Sarah W.

  6. Amanda

    This utterly disappoints me. Once again the administration is neglecting to listen and respect the voice of the students. CUE fosters community (CUE-munity) and every part of the program is integral to achieve full impact and success.

    I think what Kyoko was getting at is that participants will now be living isolated on their dorm floors and this poses a strong chance that students will not have the visible support that's inherent in CUE's program. Just like any orientation program, there will be students who are nervous, unsure about their decision, and might even be experiencing bouts of depression. If students are living drastically separated because of the housing selection process and don't have easy access to their leaders, they may feel lonely and unsupported in a new environment. Separated housing just doesn't make sense.

    CUE was one of the best parts of my college experience. I found a community of people who are invested in social justice and community building. Many of my friendships and relationship all stem from this program (CUE '09, '11, '12). I can attest to its success and that each element is so necessary.

  7. CUE '11  

    If I may offer an unpopular opinion:
    I didn't consider CUE to be that great. I enjoyed meeting new people and doing service in the community, but because it was limited to one week there was only so much we could do from a social justice point of view and only so much we could do to form friendships. Socially CUE promises to give you a great community of friends to belong to, but I didn't find that true. I was told I'd meet my best friends in college, but I am still friends with only a few people from CUE and we're not even particularly close. The leaders and administration of CUE need to realize that attempting to build a lasting 'community' in 1 week is impossible; rather than pushing for some unrealistic temporary shared living environment, why don't you actually try to make the "community" continue during the rest of the year when the students will be separated by different dorm rooms, classes, schools, and interests? Give students a more realistic environment from the start and I think long-term friendships will form more naturally, even if you don't get the same level of warm fuzzy emotions during the first week.
    I want to acknowledge that CUE does do monthly reunion brunches during the semester so they are trying to continue the CUE experience, but I think the events have to be more substantial to make the experience actually continue. I would rather reunite with the people I volunteered with to do some meaningful work again or discuss social justice issues with fellow CUE-ers, for example.

    I also don't discount the logistic difficulties of this new arrangement for the leaders, but my point is that if you're going to fight this decision, center your argument around the logistics, not the temporary sense of community that the students will be gaining.

    • well

      Yea well from a logistical standpoint, no one will wake up on time, site service will be even more restricted, and basically nothing can get done.

      And socially, the vast majority do form close friendships but even your limited friendships can only harder to launch off the ground. How do you have 4 school unity for example when everyone is physically separated by scool?

    • Anonymous  

      Fine. Just on logistics, I hope all the service sites call Scott and Terry when Columbia proves to be late and unreliable to dozens of organizations throughout the city and parents call them when their kids don't participate in the program and have a "true" pre-NSOP where they are vomiting all week.

  8. Anonymous

    More reason to do COOP!

  9. Tastemaker

    Did anyone else actually try to see if they could write without their pinky? No? Okay.

  10. Dumb

    More dumb decisions from Scott Wright, Todd Smith, and Dean Martinez. Since housing is okay with this, it really just represents pure laziness, excuses, and admins working against students and not with them, forget for them.

  11. wow

    Scott Wright's email is completely out of touch with reality. Although the student leaders say the community building is being disrupted, he concludes with the cute "the quality won't be affected" and "community building will be enhanced". I would maybe respect him if he sat down and had one meeting with these students and realized his mistake, but that seems doubtful.

  12. Anonymous

    I'm embarrassed by our administration.

  13. Anonymous  

    I like the quote about writing with your finger cut-off. Fortunately, all SDA does is cut off more and more fingers.

  14. '16  

    On the positive side, thanks to all the awesome CUE coordinators and leaders over the past few years. Glad I was apart of the program in its glory days...but on the negative side, I pose this decision as an example to admins who ask why our school sucks at community building and then do dumb shit like this.

  15. Anonymous  

    Scott's email just sounds silly. They have a whole week of NSOP to clean 30 rooms? And I always have to re-clean my rooms anyway; they're disgusting and probably cleaner after CUE kids live in them (and pre-clean them) anyway.

  16. Anonymous

    I still can't get passed that they haven't talked to a single person actually involved in the program and didn't know the schedule. lol.

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