@McFister I, for one, take issue with Kulawik’s assertion that the executive board of the College Republicans was merely acting at the service of its membership bringing these Minutemen goons to campus. Bullshit. If they were serving their membership, they would have recognized that no good would come of bringing the Minutemen to campus. But the College Republicans aren’t concerned with ‘good’ outcomes, they are concerned with stirring up shit and trying to make the left look bad. Kulawik knows as well as anybody else that there is a sizable lunatic fringe on campus that can be manipulated for good effect. Not surprising, this is exactly what occurred. The desired outcome was achieved, now Horowitz and the rest of the right wing-nuts can point fingers at the left for being thought controlling, mind-controlling hypocrites who ‘stifle free-speech.’ Perhaps no so ironically this is the same ‘tautology’ that Kulawik accuses the leftists elements on campus of setting up. Well, Mr. Kulawik, I think there is more than enough guilt by association for both the right and the left on this one. Bravo – you have orchestrated a brilliant piece of theater at the expense thoughtful or rational debate by more even-tempered parties. I’m sure this incident (resume-builder) will earn you a well-deserved role at some ‘think-tank.’
And as for the people who rushed the stage, your are nothing but a bunch of ignorant pawns.
@i dunno i feel like the debate has been “you stifled free speech!!” vs. “no, THEY stifled free speech with violence!!”, whereas jung is talking about what free speech concretely means in today’s society. i think it’s a worthwhile enterprise to consider the concepts we’re employing in this debate & what significance they really have.
@Speccie hmmm… Spectator does some actual reporting, finds the guy who was kicking people in the head at the Minutemen protest, and it’s not even in the highlights? Looks like a certain blog is sore to get beat on Minutemen coverage.
@ehh if there’s one thing the future corporate elite of america need, it’s the categorical imperative. or at least some moral standard. they don’t teach them in macro.
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@McFisting I dunno about you, but I’m going to go stick my clenched hand into some tight spaces.
@McFister I, for one, take issue with Kulawik’s assertion that the executive board of the College Republicans was merely acting at the service of its membership bringing these Minutemen goons to campus. Bullshit. If they were serving their membership, they would have recognized that no good would come of bringing the Minutemen to campus. But the College Republicans aren’t concerned with ‘good’ outcomes, they are concerned with stirring up shit and trying to make the left look bad. Kulawik knows as well as anybody else that there is a sizable lunatic fringe on campus that can be manipulated for good effect. Not surprising, this is exactly what occurred. The desired outcome was achieved, now Horowitz and the rest of the right wing-nuts can point fingers at the left for being thought controlling, mind-controlling hypocrites who ‘stifle free-speech.’ Perhaps no so ironically this is the same ‘tautology’ that Kulawik accuses the leftists elements on campus of setting up. Well, Mr. Kulawik, I think there is more than enough guilt by association for both the right and the left on this one. Bravo – you have orchestrated a brilliant piece of theater at the expense thoughtful or rational debate by more even-tempered parties. I’m sure this incident (resume-builder) will earn you a well-deserved role at some ‘think-tank.’
And as for the people who rushed the stage, your are nothing but a bunch of ignorant pawns.
@yeah and rape victims shouldn’t wear skimpy clothing because then they’re just asking for it.
@duh that’s like a law of feminism
@McFister A sane person would see that the two things are rather different.
@Sprinkles But an intelligent one would see how they are similar.
@McFister An intelligent person would also see the nuances that make them rather different.
@ummm an intelligent person would also see that it’s just a quote from ‘mean girls.’ Yeah…
@McFister I don’t watch movies, I watch films.
@McFister You’re a pretentious dick
@UhOh Uh oh! McFisters getting all meta! Better watch out or else he’ll start making some post-modern ironic pieces of art soon!
@McFister Will the real McFister please stand up? Yes I am a pretentious dick. I go to Columbia, for chrissake!
@McFister Then you’re missing out, b/c Tina Fey is an absolutely amazing writer!
@McFister It is now on the Netflix queue.
@rjt Tina Fey is also a babe.
@alex jung's column is really good.
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/media/storage/paper865/news/2006/10/20/Opinion/The-Free.Speech.Shuffle-2378568.shtml?
@eh. its mostly a rehashing of new points. the civil rights angle is definitely different though
@um.. i meant old points
@i dunno i feel like the debate has been “you stifled free speech!!” vs. “no, THEY stifled free speech with violence!!”, whereas jung is talking about what free speech concretely means in today’s society. i think it’s a worthwhile enterprise to consider the concepts we’re employing in this debate & what significance they really have.
@rjt Oh shit, correction: NOT TO BE rehashing. I have shamed my family.
@easily the best op ed i’ve read this year http://www.columbiaspectator.com/news/2006/10/20/Opinion/Race-And.The.Meaning.Of.Civil.And.Human.Rights-2378633.shtml
@rjt Agreed, very good op-ed, and somehow manages to not be rehashing everything everyone has already thought about the incident.
@i really hope not.
@Speccie hmmm… Spectator does some actual reporting, finds the guy who was kicking people in the head at the Minutemen protest, and it’s not even in the highlights? Looks like a certain blog is sore to get beat on Minutemen coverage.
@another one Haha word. Jesus, this was the huge lead story and you pretend it doesn’t exist? Cute.
@ehh if there’s one thing the future corporate elite of america need, it’s the categorical imperative. or at least some moral standard. they don’t teach them in macro.