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Some Returning Barnardians May Be Out $11k

Barnard has a severe housing shortage. On Wednesday, residents learned that Plimpton rooms which in the spring were singles will this fall be doubles. Today, a student forwarded us an email from Barnard Res Life explaining that Barnard students returning from leave, and possibly transfers as well, may not get on-campus housing at all—may be forced into apartments, or the 92 St. Y, or the Brandon Residency for Women.

What does that mean for students returning from leave and transfers who are on financial aid? According to a commenter, “Barnard gives out housing grants to cover the cost of housing and meals. If you decide you don’t want to live on campus, that grant does not transfer over to cover tuition costs or is expendable for off-campus housing. You just lose 11g’s.”

We contacted the director of Barnard’s financial aid office as well as the associate dean and assistant director of Barnard Res Life; all three were out.

However, we did read the below on Barnard Res Life’s Off-Campus page. As of now, we’re unsure whether students technically “chose” to live off-campus by giving up their housing guarantee when they went on leave.

Please note that students who choose to live off-campus are subject to a “commuter” instead of a “residential” financial aid budget (which can result in a difference of $11,000 of available aid). Students who are thinking of living off-campus are strongly encouraged to contact the Financial Aid Office to discuss how it could affect their financial aid package.

And this sentence below adds up to a catch-22, at least for the transfer students:

[S]tudents receive a guarantee of housing only if they continue to live on-campus.

One nasty irony from another nook of Barnard Res Life’s site:

Barnard College considers the residential experience to be an integral part of a student’s total education. Students who live on campus have a more productive and more satisfying college experience than those who live off campus. Research over the past 40 years indicates that college students who live on campus are more likely to [do better in a bevy of ways].

We’re bothering more people over the phone and by email; hopefully we’ll get a statement from Barnard Res Life and Financial Aid today, rather than Monday.

N.B. On-campus housing is not guaranteed for Barnard students returning for leave or for transfer students.

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  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous I actually talked to Barnard Fin Aid about this last semester when I was thinking about moving off campus. She gave me the bad news about losing grant money for housing if you move off campus voluntarily, but she did mention that Barnard has run out of housing (as they have this year) in the past and that when this happens they DO still give grant money for housing. These students will still be burdened by finding an apartment on such short notice and may have to pay a little extra if they find housing more expensive than Barnards, but they should still get their financial aid for housing. Not a great situation but not as bad as you made it seem.

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous do you think i’d embarrass myself with such cheap housing

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous We should print bumper stickers and post these flyers around campus

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous I’m on my way to get “fuck res life” tattooed on my ass

    1. Lovin' in the But says:

      @Lovin' in the But Well if the tattoo is on your ass, the “fuck” is kind of redundant, isn’t it?

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous Admins are probably going to deal with this just because it looks so bad. They’ve never been particularly responsive and the school basically shuts down over the summer.

    Also, don’t know how Barnard does it, but at Columbia I lived off campus and they still gave me credit for housing. They give you a fixed block if you qualify, which is a few thousand less than the most expensive Columbia housing, and if you can show you’re not living at home than they say you need that block still and you’ll get it back in your refund. I was supposed to show a lease but I never did and I still got my money. I’m full ride, by the way, and it costs less to live off campus as long as you can get enough money up front for deposits and broker fees.

    (I also graduated in December and Columbia keeps giving me 24k financial aid and then charging me 24k in tuition every term, which I’ve tried to fix and have eventually just accepted since it costs me nothing.)

    But seriously, it’s probably fine. The person who will tell you they won’t charge extra is probably just on vacation and everyone else is too lazy to find the person actually in charge. If there’s not been a mention of something in a week, then you should start freaking out.

  • 18th Century Troll says:

    @18th Century Troll Maybe it’s time for the poverty-stricken woman to marry the 258 year old billionaire?

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous I blame the Vag.

    $45 million??

  • GS says:

    @GS No money, a series of bad decisions and a shamefully half-baked solution. Did Barnard merge with GS in the offseason? Ladies I feel your pain

    1. CC '13 says:

      @CC '13 awww.


    2. GS '12 says:

      @GS '12 … but GS would not bother to send you an email in advance. they would wait for you arrive and THEN tell you that: you have no financial aid; you cannot register for your classes; you have no housing; you have no adviser (because s/he just quit); you have no life on this campus.

  • Hey Guys says:

    @Hey Guys There’s always The Greystone, which offers boutique hotel style living on the Upper West Side at 91st and Broadway. Student Rentals from $2,125

    1. yea says:

      @yea because we can afford that.

      1. Anonymous says:

        @Anonymous Then you’re not Bwog’s target audience, obviously.

        Bwog only cares about the 1%. (Or whores itself out to the 1%. And considering that Columbia’s full of aspiring i-bankers, par for the course)

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous I’ve got ya back (and I’m BC ’13 for the record). I’m really sorry to hear about your situation with housing, and even more sorry to hear that it has so negatively impacted your experience at BC. If it’s any consolation, I know that as soon as we all get back to school there will be huge scene/protest about it. I know that there’s probably nothing that can make anyone feel better about this, but still…

    1. Anonymous says:

      @Anonymous oops that was in response to BC ’15 again

    2. Anonymous says:

      @Anonymous “HUGE” scene/protest against administrative abuse? Don’t know where you were when barnard got away with the part-time after-the-fact bs because students were basically afraid to fight it in any serious way if it affected them, and didnt care about it if it didnt. Sounds like we go to a different barnard, sadly.

      1. Anonymous says:

        @Anonymous hey, listen. i was just trying to offer some support to a fellow classmate who is in a shitty situation right now. i find it absurd that another barnard student would be so quick to criticize what i am saying. yeah, i get your point but seriously if you have a problem with the culture of the school, or the way things are run – maybe it’s time that you take the lead and do something about it (or anyone else who is reading this)

        1. jesus christ says:

          @jesus christ seriously..ugh

          “HEY! I know you just proved what I said was wrong, but I was trying to make somebody feel better, even if what I was saying was untrue! Shame!”

    3. Anonymous says:

      @Anonymous If there’s going to be any protesting, they’ll probably lock down the whole school again..even though last time people just congregated in the Diana. I don’t really know what will happen if there is an actual protest…

  • Barnard should take care of the students. says:

    @Barnard should take care of the students. A school situated in New York City simple cannot drop this on students so very soon to the the beginning of classes. This cannot be affecting many students; Barnard ought to take care of its students by helping them find an apartment and eating part of the cost.

    A university saying that it is looking for five or ten apartments would be much better than five or ten students cast out into the city possibly without cosigners and probably without a paycheck,.

    1. Anonymous says:

      @Anonymous totally unrealistic.

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous Why is Barnard still taking anyone off the wait list? This is insane. No school should be.

    1. Anonymous says:

      @Anonymous she may mean the housing wait list, not the admission wait list

  • the obvious solution... says:

    @the obvious solution... OCCUPY RESLIFE

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous I agree with BC 15. Students returning from medical leave did not choose to leave school, they had to, and to lose housing as a returning senior to incoming transfers is just unacceptable.

  • BC '15 says:

    @BC '15 As a student who JUST got off the wait list who pays full tuition, i have to say, fuck barnard. More than hateful Bwog comments, this makes me wish I didn’t go to Barnard, which was once my dream school.

    1. no offense but.... says:

      @no offense but.... I have to wonder why they took people off the ’15 waitlist when the class was already over-admitted to begin with.

      1. Anonymous says:

        @Anonymous she’s talking about the housing waitlist…she’s class of 2015, not 2016…

        1. BC '15 says:

          @BC '15 anonymous speaks the truth!

          1. Anonymous says:

            @Anonymous How did you get off the housing waitlist? Were you on the Guaranteed one? I’m class of ’13 and I didn’t get off the non-Guaranteed waitlist…

    2. Also BC'15 says:

      @Also BC'15 Guess what? I’m also full pay and got stuck in one of the study lounges turned into quadruples last year. It was actually miserable.

      1. Yet Another BC '15 says:

        @Yet Another BC '15 You speak the truth. The quad study lounges were AWFUL.

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous Should have applied to Columbia….

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous but transfers rarely get financial aid anyways…

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous It looks like the ‘Love’ guy and ‘Hallelujah’ guy are gonna get some new neighbors.

  • Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous hey cool my comment’s in the article

  • CC11 says:

    @CC11 man I have really got to stop reading bwog.

    1. cc'11 says:

      @cc'11 holy crap, me too.

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